Steven Greer's Disclosure Project and CSETI Scams Summarized

Intro

Originally this page was just a basic 2006 archive page of ISGP focused on Steven Greer's book Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge. Because this page is relatively popular when it comes to online searches on Steven Greer (update: Google, per the usual, put a quick stop to that), it has now been merged with ISGP's biography on Steven Greer that could be found in ISGP's Cult of National Security Trolls, an article about the Coast to Coast AM radio show. The biography here of Greer was much clearer and instantly explains why he is an utter and complete scam artist, similar to virtually every other Coast to Coast AM guest.

If readers would like to get a decent sense of what information to trust on UFOs, I can only recommend ISGP's UFO newspaper archive. The only thing you're going to get outside of this archive is complete and utter BS. There's no such thing as an online UFO research community: 99.99% is security state and superclass disinformation pushing stories of Grays, reptilians, alien abductions, implants, crop circles, flying saucer crashes, ancient aliens, intergalactic space wars, and bogus sightings. Steven Greer is one of the more important cogs in this network, but there's a whole army standing right besides him.

Summary of Steven Greer and Disclosure Project hoaxes

Steven Greer is the founder and head of the Disclosure Project and CSETI. He has appeared dozens of time on the scammy Coast to Coast AM radio show since about 1994.

A first point of interest is the strange contact between Steven Greer and neocon CIA director and top superclass member James Woolsey very early on in 1993:

• Letter from John Petersen, Diane Petersen, James Woolsey and Suzanne Woolsey to Steven Greer, dated September 16, 1999:
  
  

  "It has just come to the attention of the four of us that you have, without giving any of us the opportunity to comment, published a distorted account of a dinner party of some six years ago at which the four of us, you, and your wife were seated together.
  
  "In the introduction to your book, Extraterrestrial Contact, published earlier this year you portray this dinner party conversation during which the four of us listened to your views and politely asked questions as a "briefing" with a "cover story." You further assert that Mr. and Mrs. Woolsey reported a UFO sighting to you and agreed with your views. You include specific alleged quotations from them.
  
  "None of this is accurate. You have portrayed politeness as acquiesceance and questions as affirmations. Your conduct in this manner contravenes both accuracy and simple manners." (Photocopy of document)

There are literally numerous reasons why Greer should be considered a con artist. I'm sure there are many more problems to find, but these are the ones I ran into over the years:

• Greer is best friends with David Wilcock, a long-time Coast to Coast AM guest who is considered the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce and with that the reincarnation of "Ra-Ta", the half God who supposedly built the Great Pyramid in 10,500 B.C. - which most definitely is not the case.

• Greer has used very unreliable witnesses. Clifford Stone, for example, was already a source for the bizarre John Lear and Linda Howe in the 1980s.
  
  Probably the best example is Dr. Fred Bell, who appears under the alias "Dr. B." in the Disclosure Project briefing document. It makes me wonder, is it Dr. Bell or Dr. Greer who decided to keep the name "Fred Bell" out of the Disclosure Project briefing document? In the document "Dr. B." is described as "a scientist and engineer who has worked on top-secret projects almost all his life." What is left out is that Dr. Bell has been somewhat prominent in California's New Age circuit since the 1980s (selling his super-overpriced "hat pyramids" and "Pleiadean" receptor necklaces), and that Dr. Bell claims to be a Pleiadean contactee, that we are all going to die in 2012, that no-757 hit the Pentagon, and that Gray aliens eat humans dissolved in acid.
  
  At the very least Greer would normally consider this last point to be pure disinformation, but somehow did think Dr. Bell - who certainly knows his physics, engineering, chemistry, and biology - was credible enough to be a Disclosure Project witness. Very strange.
  
  
• Robert O. Dean is another perfect example of an unreliable Disclosure Project witness. In January 1996 Laurance Rockefeller (1001 Club), Claiborne Pell (Pilgrims) and C.B. Scott Jones were lobbying congress to grant congressional immunity to Robert Dean, who they claimed was willing to speak out about UFO secrecy.
  
  During his later Disclosure Project testimony he talked about the "Alien Contact Intelligence Organization" (ACIO) and about "Cosmic Top Secret" being 38 levels above regular Top Secret, both being complete and utter nonsense (Cosmic Top Secret is NATO's standard Top Secret classification and there are no 38 levels above Top Secret).
  
  Dean also appeared on Coast to Coast AM on: 1/5/98, 1/7/98, 5/7/98, 9/5/99, 9/19/00, 1/26/01, 05/21/03 and 06/25/05. Later on he spread stories about the Anunnaki (of C2C AM's Zecharia Sitchin) and passed around a NATO document on different alien species that turned out to be completely bogus.
  
  
• Quickly skipping through Steven Greer's 2013 Sirius film, it's hard to even find a single semi-reliable aspect:
  
  
  • Greer is extensively pushing the idea that an ancient mummified fetus or newly-born child in reality is an "ET being." How often have we seen these type of scams come by in the UFO world?
    
    
  • A video is shown of UFOs creating a crop circle, which in reality is a relatively well-known hoax of John Whaley, a video effects specialist. The film was shot near Oliver's Castle in the UK. Whaley's group filmed the field, made the crop circle, with Whaley later applying a basic fade-over effect and inserting the UFO lights. Greer should be fully aware of this, because crop circle "researcher" Colin Andrews, a close friend of Greer, was the target of the hoax back in the 1990s. Andrews is a huge scam artist himself, and suspected of having created his own hoaxes in coordination with Steven Greer and possibly even the Circlemakers.org group in the early 1990s (behind the scenes, hoaxers, "researchers", organized skeptics and overt and covert circle making groups have all been working together).
    
    In the Sirius video at 16 minutes in, Greer's CSETI team can also be seen playing an old audiotape of Colin Andrews that supposedly captured the sound of supernatural being that approached Andrews' team while sitting in a crop circle at night. Critics have claimed that in reality it is a Grasshopper Warbler, a bird commonly found in Britain's crop fields. And it must be said, it sounds exactly like a Grasshopper Warbler.
    
    
  • The supposed Black Triangle UFO photograph has been included. The hoaxer of that (amazing-looking) photo has come out in recent years and we can be virtually certain that it is a hoax indeed.
    
    
  • An old painting is shown that supposedly depicts two balls of light "UFOs" with inhabitants. In reality the two balls of light in the painting, which comes from the Byzantine empire, are well-known symbolic depictions of the sun and moon, of the Old and New Testament, or Mary (female; Moon) and Jesus (male; Sun). A number of related images, discussed in the same link, are also shown.
    
    
  • In the same segment the Indian "Vimana" myth is once again brought forward. This also is a total hoax, based on fictional translations of a few sentences of completely disjointed segments of the Mahabharata. This controversy is discussed in-depth in ISGP's article on Graham Hancock's ancient aliens/gods disinformation efforts.
    
    
  • At some point, the film perpetuates the myth that trillions of Pentagon dollars have been diverted into black programs, most likely to develop space vehicles. This actually is a very questionable claim, introduced by an even more very questionable individual, primarily Catherine Austin Fitts: the elite Dillon, Read & Co. banker, Bush, Sr. administration official under national security superclass member Jack Kemp, Coast to Coast AM regular, shadowy 9/11 Truth director, and Mike Ruppert associate. The missing trillions of the Pentagon - a well-known issue - are discussed in ISGP's Special Access Programs article.
    
    
  • Many Disclosure Projects / Coast to Coast AM con artists (Cayce/"Ra Ta"-incarnate David Wilcock and such) have been included in the film, but I haven't had time to analyze it in-depth. The above issues are just the first things I noticed while skipping through it.
    
    
• On June 22, 2008, Paracast hosts Gene Steinberg and David Biedny finally asked Greer some real questions. This interview clearly showed some more peculiar aspects of Greer's personality, among them:
  
  

  • Greer can be incredibly condescending, especially when questioned.
    
    
  • Greer just talks, and talks, and talks, and is very hard to shut up for even one moment so a follow-up question can be asked. At one point he even says to the hosts "don't interrupt me" and rambles on. In my opinion, at that point Greer wasn't particularly rationally refuting the claim that some abduction cases appear to have been rather malevolent.
    
    
  • Greer doesn't do a good job of explaining why participants of CSETI contact events have to sign non-disclosure agreements when it comes to photographs and video material. First Greer is worried that certain members of the contact group may not want these materials out; then he states he's worried individual group members are going to copyright and sell the material. An argument follows about these copyright laws in which one of the hosts - who has some experience in this field - explains to Greer that it's perfectly possible to allow persons to share their videos but not allow them to sell them for profit. Obviously the host is right here. And certainly it is quite strange that at the present moment (virtually) no videos about the CSETI contact events are available for download anywhere while CSETI events are supposed to be incredibly spectacular, judging from the words of Steven Greer.
    
    
  • At one point during the interview, one of the hosts says he has a close, personal friend who is extremely wealthy and has become interested in Greer's Orion Project, which is trying to raise 3 million dollars to build and market a free energy device. The host explains that his friend would hardly blink even at spending 30 million dollars, but that it is always important to know who exactly is involved in a project. The host, more or less acting as a proxy for his friend, rightly tells Greer that the information on the Orion website is too vague to make it of real interest to any potential big funders, and asks for some additional information on the persons who would be putting together such a device. Interestingly, Greer doesn't embrace this potentially huge opportunity to get all his funding problems out of the way. Instead of taking the host's word for it and scheduling a meeting with this wealthy businessman, he insults the host by questioning no less than four times if he actually has this wealthy friend. Greer's additional explanations on who's involved in the Orion Project, as always, leave much to be desired. This just shows that Greer either is a total retard when it comes to spotting business opportunities, or he has never been interested in actually putting together a free energy device.
    
    
• In late December 2008 and early January 2009 it was possible to read the following message on the Disclosure Project website:
  
  

  "December 19, 2008 - Dr. Greer felt it was important to release this important document now. January 1995 Strategic Studies Institute document describing a plan to control citizens through physical and psychological means including contrived/hoaxed UFO abductions, drugs, holograms, and psychotronics. Note: RMA = Revolution in Military Affairs. Click the following links to read: First page Second page"

  
  The Disclosure Project only uploaded two pages of this "document", which beared the name Strategic Studies Institute. Although this partial document was announced as being a really big and totally new revelation, it actually is anything but. Here's why:
  
  

  • The "document" had already been available to the public for many years at Mindcontrolforums.com, although the paper never spread beyond this page.
    
    
  • The "Document" is not at all an official document written by the Strategic Studies Institute, as the Disclosure Project stated. It actually was a fictional scenario written by Julianne McKinney, a former army intelligence officer and an activist against the abuse of microwave and other electronic weaponry. McKinney's not-too-rational scenario was preceded by another slightly irrational letter. It's from this document that Greer picked up the word "stagecraft" and some other inspiration.
    
    
• Greer is close to members of the Anglo-American Establishment. He's been to the ranch of Laurance Rockefeller where he was brought into contact with the Clintons, he's always talking about globalization, the effects of global warming, and his adventures at the United Nations. Greer also vaguely claimed to know about the interest of the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, Peter G. Peterson, Maxwell Rabb, and Prince Philip in the UFO subject and the Disclosure Project. Each and every person or family mentioned here is part of the Anglo-American Establishment (they have all been Pilgrims Society members).
  
  
• It appears that Greer has been in contact with Maurice Strong, a close associate of Laurance Rockefeller, the Rothschilds, Al Gore - not to mention that Strong was on the advisory board of the Institute for Noetic Sciences of astronaut Edgar Mitchell, Greer's old Disclosure Project ally and equally scammy Coast to Coast AM guest.
  
  In 1978 Maurice Strong established the Baca Ranch in the San Luis Valley. In 1988 he founded the Manitou Foundation here wih Laurance Rockefeller. Maurice Strong also set up a Baha'i center here with representatives of numerous religions from around the world.
  
  Related or not, the San Luis Valley was the location of the first reported cattle mutilation in October 1967 (a seemingly obvious but complex psy-op). It also was a center of UFO activity in the 1970s. In the 1990s Steven Greer, a Baha'i follower, and his CSETI project, which was partly funded by Laurance Rockefeller, was also very active at Maurice Strong's Baca Ranch and surrounding area.
  
  Christopher O'Brien's San Luis Valley event logs:
  
  

  "199. Fri November 5, 1993 8:30 pm - 9:00 pm MA1 Dr. Steven Greer, Sherri Adamialk and Marc Barrish see formation of lights 4 miles south of Fairplay, CO. Lights form into geometric shapes, perform non-ballistic movements. Park County (CSETI/O'Brien) ...
  
  "200. *Sun November 7, 1993, 1:45 am (7 before NM) CE1 2 witnesses see 12' craft 35 feet off Road T. A 3rd witness also sees a smaller orb. Duration 4-5 seconds. Saguache County (CSETI/O'Brien) ...
  
  "254. Thur May 5, 1994 at 8:00 am, Baca Grande Development MA1 ( ) While in the Baca to conduct a CSETI training session, Dr. Steven Greer observed "a bright silver sphere" hovering over the Sangres while jogging. The object did not leave a vapor trail. The object hovered silently for "several minutes" before heading east over the mountains. Saguache County (Greer/O'Brien) ...
  
  "417. *Sun June 16, 1996 at 2:00 am Baca Grande Grants MA1 ( ) CSETI has sightings out over Valley Saguache County (O'Brien) ...
  
  "418. 4:00 am Baca Chalets CSETI has sightings during training session. Saguache County (CSETI) ...
  
  "419. 2:45 am Baca Grants CSETI has sightings during training session. Saguache County (CSETI) ...
  
  "553. Baca Grande Development UNCONFIRMED Saguache County (CSETI) CSETI training group may have experienced [an] anomalous event(s). ...
  
  "558. Wed June 10, 1998 at 10:20 pm Road T, across from Baca Ranch, Crestone Saguache County (ISUR) AN1 ... Light was CSETI's Laser being used during a training session."

  
  
• Equally interesting is Greer's talk about the worldwide policy group that oversees the UFO secrecy. According to Greer, about two-thirds of this group approves of disclosure, although there's a small, but very influential and violent minority that wants to keep things secret. As usual, Greer hasn't spelled out the story, but it's interesting to note that Greer has been attacking a number of traditional opponents of the dominant liberal establishment: key neoconservatives as Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, the Mormons, and reactionary elements in the Vatican(-Paneuropa network).
  
  
• His spiritual/remote viewing stories don't make that much sense here and there. Remote viewers slamming into alien spacecraft is just one curious example from his book Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge, which is discussed in detail here.
  
  
• Greer continually teases his public with little nuggets of seemingly new information. However, he never lays out the full story, nor does he mention how this information came to him ("witness A said this, witness B said this, we checked this and found out that, etc.").
  
  
• Greer has been talking about finding a free energy device for about two decades now. Occasionally he claims to be on the verge of a breakthrough, but ultimately things never seem to go anywhere. He has also never explained how his team would be able to protect the scientists in question, as, according to his own words, the rogue group involved in UFO back-engineering is in the possession of incredibly advanced "consciousness-linked" monitoring equipment, as per his book Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge.
  
  
• Greer's Disclosure Project with its hundreds of witnesses would be incredibly vulnerable to disinformation, especially when information is not being carefully checked (or put aside until it can be verified). New witnesses can have all the credentials in the world, but who says they are telling the truth? It is perfectly possible that the Disclosure Project has been targeted by a long-term disinformation campaign involving at least several dozen witnesses, all of them backing up aspects of each other's stories. Greer's explanation as per his book Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge that he is remote viewing many of his future witnesses is not particularly reassuring. Update: It's clear at this point that all of Greer's witnesses are intelligence assets and disinformers.
  
  
• Some of Greer's information sounds quite spectacular. However, the more reliable aspects of it have already been discussed in the past and Greer seldom gives credit. One example is the December 1991 document entitled 'memorandum of the Task Force of Greater CIA openness to the Director of Central Intelligence' which included a passage about the CIA's continued cooperation with the media. It's on the Disclosure Project website and Greer frequently mentions it in his lectures as something members of his team have brought to light. He forgets to mention, however, that it was the Washington Post who quoted from this document in 1992 (April 23, 1992, Washington Post, 'CIA Report On Openness Classified Secret').
  
  Another example from 2006: Greer publicly stated that a top-level SETI scientist had confirmed to the Disclosure Project that SETI had received multiple extraterrestrial signals, but that these signals were soon jammed by U.S. intelligence agencies. True or not, few people know that already in 1990 Pulitzer prize winning author Howard Blum - who has written for the New York Times and was acquainted with Seymour Hersh (but is still a disinformer/con artist) - had reported something similar in his book Out There. Blum received this information from Jonathan Thompson, the executive secretary to President Bush's Science Advisor. The scientist in question, however, denied ever having said that to Thompson and immediately tried to put an end to the conversation.
  
  A considerable amount of material is described in Blum's book that is today associated with the Disclosure Project. Blum already described the quick reaction teams of Projects Moon Dust and Blue Fly that were to "recover or perform field exploration of unidentified flying objects..." (quote from a forged "official" document). Blum also described Joint Chief documents in which they were worried that the increase in UFO sightings above national security sites were preparations for an alien invasion. Out of these fears not only grew Projects Moon Dust and Blue Fly, but also Project Saint and Project Blue Gemini, which allegedly were about tracking and killing UFOs.

  Greer adds a lot to this older information, which basically comes down to piling shit on top of each other.

Archive for 2006

A few months ago I did a review on Steven Greer's book 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge' and identified most of the names Greer had changed. In this update three others will be identified, including the "descendant of James Jesus Angleton." Also, at about the time the first review on 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge' was written, "General T.E." and the alleged "slippery shadowy-op psychiatrist" turned up at a very interesting place.

The week after the article on Greer's book was done, I came across the new conspiracy movie One Nation Under Siege. You can imagine my thoughts when I read the names Rima Laibow and general Albert Stubblebine. They are part of the military intelligence group that completely destroyed the UFO community in the 1980s and 1990s. Now Stubblebine seems to be out on doing the same with the 9/11 Truth community. Of all the good questions that can be asked about 9/11, Stubblebine, a former head of Military Intelligence, only decides to discuss the theory that the hole in the Pentagon is too small for a 757 to have crashed. I'm just watching it again, his testimony is absolutely hilarious.

The producer and director of One Nation Under Siege is William Lewis. In his film he only lets us hear a few general statements about 9/11 that in themselves mean nothing. Just before Stubblebine appears on the screen, Lewis talks about how a 757 could never have hit the Pentagon. Von Kleist, the pod person, backs him up on that, of course. Then after Stubblebine is done, Lewis has the nerve to claim there's also evidence that no United Airlines and American Airlines hit the World Trade Center. He repeats the completely discredited claim of Mark Burnback and even says there were "numerous other eyewitness" who made similar statements. Of course, he doesn't let us hear these statements as they simply don't exist (besides one or two that have been completely taken out of context). Same with his assertion that there were many people who claimed a small plane hit the Pentagon. In reality there were only two and not one claimed to have seen a missile or a Global Hawk.

Now, I hardly claim authority on any issue, but I definitely claim some with the Pentagon crash. I still regard my article, which was first published in early 2005, as the most extensive in refuting all "evidence" that something else than a 757 might have hit the Pentagon. I sent the article to most of the prominent 9/11 researchers. Some agreed, usually from the start, but most said (if they even replied) they disagreed without ever refuting any of the points made. These researchers just ignore the article and keep blabbing their theories to their audience. Biggest wake up call I ever had. This doesn't mean we have to stop asking for the Pentagon videos, but building theories on non-existent evidence isn't exactly the smartest thing to do.

Back to One Nation again. Rima Laibow is the wife of general Albert Stubblebine. In his film Wilson forgets to mention her background of building the Alien Abduction movement. Here's a repeat of the biography that had been compiled earlier:

"[Laibow] organized several quite-exclusive TREAT conferences in the following years, which mainly focused on alien abductions and finding out the details through remote viewing. Col. John Alexander [Mentioned in Greer's book] was a program director of at least some of these conferences. Gen. Albert Stubblebine, Ed Dames, Dr. Stephan Schwartz, Jack Houck, Dr. Craig Jensen were some of the people speaking at these conferences. As usual, Ed Dames, a PSI-TECH board member told some amazingly creepy stories about hibernating aliens and their genetic experimentations. Interestingly, it has been reported that Laibow has claimed to be an abductee herself. Previously associated with Budd Hopkins. In the summer of 1991, C.B. Scott Jones [Mentioned in Greer's book; Naval Intelligence; vice president US Psychotronics Association; associate of Hans Adam von Liechtenstein, who was mentioned in Greer's book] and Laibow were planning a yachting excursion together with Col. John Alexander to investigate anomalies in the Bahamas. Laibow, Stubblebine, ufologist Victoria Lacas (wife of John Alexander), and Jones toured Europe and the Soviet Union, where they established a prodigious UFO/Psi network. Married Gen. Albert Stubblebine at some point. She is the architect, along with her husband, Gen. Stubblebine III, of AEGIS, of a comprehensive Homeland Security private initiative, to increase effectiveness and costs of the organization [don't know what it means, here] . On the board of Canadian Submarine Technologies, Inc. Doesn't agree at all with Steven Greer's and Helmut Lammer's theories of MILABs, or military-induced "alien" abductions. According to Lammer, she has misstated a lot of his work."

Update, Oct. 9: Just looked into AEGIS again, because I ran into a corporation with that name just recently while doing the bio of mr. black op, Evan Hineman. If that's a reference to the Aegis Research Corporation, "a leading provider of enterprise protection strategies and technical services to the federal national security community", then its one of the many black ops beltway bandits out there. It was taken over by ManTech and its National Security Solutions Group (NSSG) in 2002, temporarily headed by Hineman. Armitage, the associate of Ted Shackley in importing CIA drugs from the Golden Triangle, appeared on the board of ManTech in 2005. If Stubblebines' Aegis is not a reference to Aegis Research, then it's still worthwhile to note that Stubblebine and Laibow have also been accused of spreading disinformation on the Codex Alimentarius and the alternative health community, the issue Laibow is talking about in One Nation.

Seriously, what does a person like Laibow have to do in Lewis' video? And what does this say about Stubblebine's support for the no-757-at-Pentagon theory? He isn't the only one by the way. Earlier, I reported about former CIA pilot John Lear, who also claimed no 757 could have hit the Pentagon. He did this at Coast to Coast while talking about alien devices on the moon that capture the souls of humans when they die. Lear was part of the tiny club that completely trashed UFO research in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

There's another coincidence pertaining to One Nation that adds to the confusion. Check out Out There TV - Episode 223, a conspiracy program straight from the twilight zone. At some point Lewis says: "The psychotronic generators are probably there in the cell towers right now... I have interviewed a few people from the KGB who would say that they built them and sold them to the US." Not really the smartest way to promote your movie, most people would think. And why the KGB? It would be interesting to know for example what Stubblebine, the actor in Lewis' documentary, was involved with at the BDM Corporation (a long story). Or what Col. John Alexander, a friend of both Laibow and Stubblebine, was doing at Los Alamos with his psychotronic research department. Let's recap a bit who Col. Alexander is:

"Commanded Special Forces "A" Teams in Vietnam and Thailand 1966-1969. His teams are said to have been involved in Project Phoenix terror campaign. Supposedly received a Ph.D. in Thanatology, a study of the social and emotional aspects surrounding death... Both [Alexander and Stubblebine] have been interested in creating an elite soldier with very powerful paranormal abilities. Director of PSI-TECH, together with Major Ed Dames (who cranks out doom scenario after doom scenario these days), at the time Gen. Stubblebine was its chairman. Director of non-lethal weapons testing at Los Alamos in the 1980s. Organized and chaired five major conferences on non-lethal weapons. Task Force member of the CFR's 1995 Nonlethal Technologies Independent Task Force Report. JASON scientist Richard L. Garwin, and Richard "Prince of Darkness" Perle [a good friend of Brian Crozier, former head of Le Cercle] were two other members of the CFR's task force... Important scientist at NIDS, which was founded in 1995, and a close associate of its owner and president, the shadowy Las Vegas (Nevada) businessman Robert Bigelow [Mentioned in Greer's book]. Married Victoria Lacas (Alexander), [who] has been photographed having dinner with John's friend, Edward Teller... Great supporter of using advanced technologies to create a "safe" police state.... a lot more "

As you already read, colonel John Alexander was Stubblebine's close associate in the UFO community and was also a member of Military Intelligence. In the 1980s, Alexander was head of non-lethal weapons research testing at Los Alamos, doing unknown research on psychotronic weaponry. He liaised with the CFR and the US Global Strategy Council. The USGSC, which was loaded with right wing Moonie supporters from all branches of the intelligence community and the military, was primarily interested in two things: promoting the Star Wars program and developing non-lethal weapons. The Stars Wars program was later accused of being a bogus front operation to redirect funds to black programs, which largely had to do with the development of non-lethal weapons. Edward Teller, a good friend of Alexander, was among the early members of the USGSC and relentlessly promoted the Star Wars program. Bobby Ray Inman was another early member of the USGSC. We'll come across Teller and Inman again in a moment.

Believe it or not, General Stubblebine and Colonel Alexander should even be under investigation for possible involvement in 9/11. Jon Ronson investigated their First Earth Battalion project, in which they allegedly tried to create an invincible soldier with paranormal powers. Ronson contacted one of the people connected to this project who referred him to "the most First Earth Battalion guy" he knew, which turned out to be a martial arts instructor in Florida, Bert Rodriguez. Heller described Rodriguez as "Spiritual is the wrong word. He’s occultic. He’s like a walking embodiment of death. He can stop you at a distance. He can influence physical events just with his mind. If he catches your attention he can stop you without touching you." This might sound impossibe, but these stories can also be heard in Ninjutsu, for example. The thing is that even 10th or 11th dans, who as far as I remember only receive training in Japan by only one instructor, are struggling with attaining this kind of influence. Anyway, the important point here is that one of Rodriguez' reported students was Ziad Jarrah, who shared some of his teachings with Marwan al-Shehhi. Jarrah, the alleged pilot of Flight 93, trained at Rudi Dekkers' Venice airport, just as Marwan al-Shehhi, the alleged pilot of Flight 175 and the right-hand man of Mohammed Atta. Atta was the alleged terrorist ringleader and pilot of Flight 11. The connections of the hijackers and Rudi Dekkers to shady international intelligence and drug cartels have been documented by Daniel Hopsicker. Maybe it's nothing, maybe it's everything. I wanted to read Ronson's book before doing this update. However, I accidentally ordered in it from England and the past few months nothing arrives anymore what I order from England. Have to reorder from the US some day.

So, without taking it any further, it's obvious there is something very strange going on here with One Nation Under Siege and General Stubblebine. The movie is quite decent and doesn't go into 9/11 a whole lot. It mostly deals with the loss of freedom the American people are experiencing, which is a good subject. However, the only advantage the film has over older Alex Jones movies is the more accessible way in which the matter is presented; there's nothing new to be found. Also, it's a typical Christian Conservative "blame the liberal left" kind of movie. But it still teaches the basic lessons.

Now the update on Greer's book 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge'. Here are the new names (well, three of them):

Below you can see how these conclusions were reached. More in depth biographies, accompanied by names from other sources, will be provided with a future article on this subject (which will probably take a long time).

One day this information will be used in a much more comprehensive article. More and more it seems to me that once you focus on names, very complete biographies, and in depth on the research of some key investigators, you should be able to create a lot of oversight in a relatively short article even in the field of ufology. Whatever it is, the UFO phenomenon is real. Just reading old newspaper clippings should convince anyone of that. But what's happening on earth is actually far more interesting at this moment.

New article on Le Cercle, and the Paneurpa-Vatican network it emerged from, is almost done now. Has been underway for six months.

July 5, 2006 - Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge: Dr. Greer's new book
Part 2 - Involvement of bankers and royal families

If you're still skeptical about the fact that there's a semi-covert group out there that's hell bent on establishing "global peace" as if there's no tomorrow, or the fact that high level conspiracies for less-than-noble reasons occur on a regular basis, I recommend you skip this article. Following is a subject that goes beyond the globalist group, or themes like the movie 'Syriana'. Whether the following is true or not has nothing to do with the fact that there's a globalist group running world events from behind the scenes (albeit less monolithic than is usually thought).

Like his earlier books, in his biography 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge' Steven Greer is talking about a subjects that is of interest to this site. What he's basically doing is to describe the highest circles of power, which no one in the public domain has ever convincingly done. Although there's much he hasn't made public yet, there's quite a bit of powerful information in his new book that I would like to discuss here.

1994 Wrigley Mansion meeting According to his biography, Dr. Greer was invited to a conference at the Wrigley Mansion in Phoenix, Arizona in the winter of 1994. The discussion was about a possible disclosure
Wrigley Mansion, Phoenix, AZ		of UFO information and making contact with ETs. The people who invited Greer were part of a rogue cell (compartmented group) within the larger control group. It seems that the people in this cell are more influential than the one that is interfacing with the civilian UFO community (in which General Albert Stubblebine ("Gen. T.E.") and Colonel John Alexander ("Col. MK") are leading members), as
Greer makes sure not to reveal their identities in his book. All he says about them is that their methods are "beyond dark" and that a number of "shadowy corporate people" were present, as well as a "prominent industrialist".

During the break, Greer was taken out onto the balcony by an unidentified person. This person, once again, tried to recruit Greer into his cell, and in the process gave him some interesting information. Greer put part of that conversation in chapter 16 of his book:

"Well, you know, if you want to be supported in this, just let us help you... we know you have platinum cards and gold cards. Just maximize all of them, every month: $50,000, $100,000, whatever. Get as many of them as you want. And give us the numbers. And since we run all the super computers that back up and monitor the banking system of the world, we'll simply erase those account balances to zero as paid each month."

"You know, we understand you've had this meeting with the CIA Director and are providing information to the President, but you need to know that those people don't know anything, and they're never going to know anything. You should understand that — well, you should be talking to people like us. The people dealing with this are people who do a lot of contract work for the government, under "Work For Others" -"WFO" - contracts. And you should be talking to certain think tanks. And you should be talking to certain religious orders and certain orders of Jesuit priests who have control over the technology transfer." (Greer acknowledges that this person gave more information on who to talk to, but he didn't put it in the book)

"I understand you're going to Europe soon to meet with certain people connected to the British royal family... It so happens that, I'm going to be over there meeting with the Rothschilds and the people who control the Volvo Corporation and some of the other big industrial concerns, because they are working with us."

"One of my friends, who's really interested in what you're doing, is one of the leaders of the Council on Foreign Relations, Ambassador Maxwell Rabb. Would you like to come to a meeting with him?... the Petersons are also working with me, and maybe we can get together with them."

Realizing the controversial nature of the conversation, Greer adds: "This is a true story. I'm telling you, every word is true. Put me under any drug; hook me up to any

Wrigley Mansion, Phoenix, AZ

machine. What I'm telling you is true." The fact that the Rothschilds are mentioned shouldn't be that much of surprise. Volvo is probably less expected. I have no idea who "controlled" (shareholders, CEO, or both?) the Volvo corporation in the turbulent 1993/1994 period, when a merger between Renault and Volvo fell

apart due to an internal struggle at Volvo between its CEO and chairman, Pehr Gyllenhammar, and some of the board members and most important shareholders (whoever those were).

Gyllenhammar was the CEO of Volvo for a very long time, from 1971 to 1993, and chair since 1983. He was part of the Advisory Council of the Rockefeller's Chase Manhattan Bank since 1972. Since then, he has been invited to leading positions at Kissinger Associates, Lazard Frères, and several divisions in the Rothschild network. Since Gyllenhammar has also been one of the most important builders of a united Europe, together with Etienne Davignon, ISGP already has a detailed bio of him available in the introduction article.

By 1994, however, the less-impressive Soren Gyll had become CEO of Volvo, next to the new, also not-too-impressive, chairman, Bert-Olof Svanholm. In 1997, Svanholm died while Gyll, supposedly, was forced to step down due to pressure from the board. Doesn't sound like these two would classify as "controllers" of Volvo. But whoever "controlled" Volvo, it certainly wasn't the Wallenbergs, as some might immediately suspect.

Update, July 17:
For what it's worth, an email from Volvo:

At least two other names were mentioned by Greer's conversation partner: Maxwell Rabb and the Petersons.

		Rabb has been working in the shadows of some very important people: the Pilgrims executive Henry Cabot Lodge and the alleged co-founder of MJ-12, James Forrestal. Forrestal was a very important banker at Dillon, Read & Co., the Pilgrims bank that had those business deals with Fritz Thyssen, next to Hjalmar Schacht the most important backer of Hitler. Interestingly, Rabb has long-time connections to the Italian-US mafia and
might also have been a major player in the so-called post-war Fascist International. His bio can be found here.

		Pete Peterson, one of the four or five heads of the CFR since the end of WWII, is one of the largest globalist players in the world today, and one of the closest associates of David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, and Maurice Greenberg (AIG). All these people are busy with "opening up" China's domestic market. Peterson is head of the Blackstone Group, a front company for US intelligence to launder money, according to some. It owned
the WTC7 mortgage since 2000, and Peterson, like many of his friends, now play a key role in rebuilding Lower Manhattan after the 9/11 attack. Peterson's full bio can be found here. A shorter version can be found in the June 13 update, in which he was identified as a Pilgrims Society member.

Other info given to Greer
Two years earlier, Greer also received some interesting information during the (failed) recruiting process in General T.E.'s (Albert Stubblebine) cell:

"General T.E. told me a number of things. For example, he said there were extraterrestrial craft and facilities underneath the surface of Mars and that covert projects had imaged them. He also privately told me about all kinds of assets that covert programs had that were advanced technologies- up to the level of what the ETs had. I was able to gather quite a bit of good information through the courtship that was being attempted.

[ISGP note: most likely all COMPLETE nonsense. The "covert projects" are probably Stubblebine's remote viewers who claimed the same things on Art Bell's Coast to Coast AM, including completely fictional accounts of Atlantis. Stubblebine has also claimed that Flight 77 didn't hit the Pentagon. He spreads nothing but disinformation.]

I learned that this particular 'cell' was interfacing with the civilian UFO world from the covert world -- they are an interface group and they have penetrated many civilian UFO projects."

[General T.E.'s people said] "Just who the hell do you think you are, going out there, basically bypassing the national military command to do this?"... "We control the media, and all the satellites they use; so we will take control... [when an unapproved disclosure is about to take place]"

Isn't it ironic that Marie Galbraith's UFO "disclosure" group described Greer as a "loose cannon" in the late 1990s? Like he doesn't have the right to do things his own way, or the right to share the findings of the group with the general public.

		Another person, Greer claims, that was part of the control group was William Colby, the former CIA director who was deeply involved in setting up the European Stay-Behind networks. Colby's role in Vietnam has been questioned due to his role in Project Phoenix and the Nugan Hand Bank (He was an attorney of this bank that is suspected of having been a world wide heroin money laundering center, revolving around Ted Shackley's secret team. One of Shackley's best friends was Conrad Gerber, a major player in the international oil markets who is a present-day
member of Le Cercle). After Vietnam he became involved with Kissinger's 40 Committee, which oversaw special operations against foreign countries. Colby has attended meetings of the private transnational security group Le Cercle**, which is tightly linked to the Vatican (SMOM and Opus Dei) and the London business and religious interests, not the least of them the Rothschilds. It also has some links to the legendary French Synarchie. According to Greer, Colby received access to extraterrestrial material, together with a black budget of about $50 million. In the mid 1990s, Colby, of the opinion that the covert projects were out of control, decided to transfer a large sum to Greer's CSETI. But before he was able to do that, he was assassinated. ** Le Cercle article will be vastly expanded in the near future.

Accusations (although proof is always absent) about money laundering, dope trafficking, weapons, and raw materials, seems to be the common theme between some of the people mentioned above:

The control group
According to Greer, there's a worldwide control group of about 200 to 300 members who's sitting on these technologies and information. Not everyone in this group has the same ideas or agendas, but the most powerful faction within this group, who has access to all the technologies (mentioned is a spectrum of psychotronic weaponry, powerful supercomputers, advanced bio-science, craft with exotic propulsion systems and control systems linked to thought, and consciousness-linked real-time monitoring systems), is highly violent. Even Laurance Rockefeller was afraid of the control group, and said to Greer: "My hands are tied... you have to do it... I can't be up there. The family won't have it." In fact, Greer mentions reports of satanic initiations in his book. This is a touchy subject, but completely similar statements, for similar purposes (intimidation; blackmail; selection procedure), can be found in the Belgian X-File witness testimonies ("Opus Dei members are the most brutal"), among other places.

In the United States, the Mormon financial empire, David Rockefeller, George Shultz and Bechtel have a lot of involvement with the covert group, although they might be part of different cells. Several defense and aerospace companies have mercenaries working for them who are involved with the sickest parts of the Devil's Disciples motorcycle gang. In England we have the Rothschilds while it seems that the British royal family, at least in the past, doesn't know the whole story. In northern Europe we have some of the same Jewish/Protestant/Atheist businessman of the type that can be found in England and the US. And in southern Europe we have cells within the Vatican, Opus Dei, SMOM, the Jesuits, and some of the other religious orders headed by the catholic "black" nobility (Hans Adam is mentioned by Greer. I would also guess Opus Dei luminaries as Otto von Habsburg, Juan Carlos, the Duke of Savoy, Thurn und Taxis and possibly the Belgian royals have some kind of involvement), who are part of the covert group. According to Greer, this is where the keepers of this information should be found. Hopefully he'll release more information in the future.

A strange mix, indeed

The aims of this control group, according to Greer, is to establish a worldwide big brother government and to reduce the world's population to a fraction of what it is today. Apocalyptic worldviews and radical environmental agendas are the reason behind these planned population reductions. The technologies themselves are kept secret, because it would completely and permanently upset the present world order.

Supposedly, there is an agenda out there to stage an alien threat on the earth with so-called "alien reproduction vehicles" (ARVs) manned by "programmed life forms" (PLFs). At the very least, there will be some sort of alien threat "out there" that we would have to continue to build weapons against. According to Greer, this is really a core issue of the hidden agenda. Already before 9/11, it was claimed that the "terrorist card" would be played some time before the extraterrestrial event would be staged.

There's much more to be found in the book, or on the Disclosure Project DVDs and books. Even though the information would ordinarily be labeled as "insane", it's very hard to write off Greer's credentials and accomplishments. He is a medical doctor who ran a busy ER, and he has spoken to quite a number of influential individuals. Among his supporters, and-or the people he has spoken to, are:

Missing index

Below I created a partial index of Greer's book 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge'. It should make it much easier to find certain passages when you need them in the future.

Timeline Rockefeller/Clinton UFO Disclosure process: (added December 6, 2012):

Some of the sources can be found in the 1001 Club membership list under the names of Laurance Rockefeller, Hans Adam and Prince Philip. David Rockefeller, the Bechtels, Rothschilds and Pehr Gyllenhammar have been other members.

July 1, 2006 - Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge: Dr. Greer's new book
Part 1 - identifying those made anonymous

Update, July 1: Reply from the Disclosure Project added.

While going through the digital Who's Who (1.3 million biographies) two weeks ago, I came across a handful of people who actually were polite enough to state they had been members of the 1001 Club. Though this might be a pathetically low number, especially compared to the 600 or so that have stated they were/are members of the Pilgrims Society, one of these people turned out to be Egmond Frommelt, a former chairman of the Bank of Liechtenstein, one of the banks owned by Prince Hans Adam von Liechtenstein.

www.disclosureproject.org		This small discovery reminded me of the fact that I still had to buy Dr. Steven Greer's new book, 'Hidden Truth, Forbidden Knowledge.' Why? Because Greer has spoken to Hans Adam, who used to be known as a prominent UFO investigator. And the one thing I always wanted to find out is where ufology, the supernatural, and the elitist institutions combine. Besides the fact that there's no index, the only thing that bothered me about Greer's (very interesting) new book
is the fact that the names of most of the UFO investigators he accuses of being in bed with military intelligence are censored out. Although he probably has good reasons for doing this, it painfully reminds me of the Dutroux X-file affair ("Politician O."; "Businessman P."; "Mayor T."). Fortunately, in contrast to the X-Files, Greer doesn't make it very hard to find out the true identities of most of the people he accuses. So, let's have a look at who hides behind those fictitious names.

Below, in the first column, you can see a list of names that appear in the book. The next two columns respectively show what I think is the real name, and how sure I am about it. Further down you can read in great detail how these conclusions were reached. When reading the book, I suggest you keep this list at hand. If you think one of the names is wrong, just send me an email.

From left to right: Gen. Stubblebine, Col. Alexander, Rima Laibow, Bob Bigelow, Evan Galbraith, John Mack, and Hans Adam von Liechtenstein.

95% of the following information is readily available on the internet. They're just basic biographies with not a whole lot of disputed information.

In part two of this article on 'Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge' we'll take a quick look at what Greer's view on the global power structure is. Fortunately, he does give some very important names here, and it eerily falls together with the power structure the author of this site (and others, of course) has been describing (although a lot is still not ready to be uploaded). Unfortunately, even the very gory details in Greer's book, which luckely is overwhelmingly positive, sound all to familiar.

Update
July 1, email to the Disclosure Project:

Reply from the Disclosure Project:

Well, let's not remove anything. I didn't waste so many hours analysing these names. Besides, if Greer really wanted these names to remain anonymous, the only thing he had to do was to quit dropping all those hints.

Update 2: Strong evidence that the Disclosure Project has been spreading disinformation: (added December 8, 2012):

I used to be a pretty big fan of the Disclosure Project - and apparently some within the Disclosure Project liked this site - but over the years my enthusiasm has dimmed quite a bit. Allow me to explain.

The Disclosure Project has been a really big thing, mainly because of the credentials of many of the witnesses, the prominence of the National Press Club press conference in Washington in 2001, and the persons Steven Greer has been talking to. But despite all this, I've never really had a good feeling about Steven Greer. Take the case of astronaut Edgar Mitchell. In an early Disclosure Project video he stated:

"Whatever activity is going on, to the extent that it is, a clandestine group, a quasi government group, a quasi private group; it is without any type - as far as I can tell - of high level government oversight."

As recent as 2004, the St. Petersburg Times wrote about Mitchell:

"A few insiders know the truth . . . and are studying the bodies that have been discovered," said Mitchell, who was the sixth man to walk on the moon. Mitchell, who landed on the moon with Alan B. Shepard, said a "cabal" of insiders stopped briefing presidents about extraterrestrials after President Kennedy."

At first sight it appears that Mitchell is completely on the same page as Steven Greer when it comes to UFOs and secrecy. However, back in 2001 when the Disclosure Project held its prominent National Press Club conference, Mitchell distanced himself from the project by stating:

"I cooperated with Steve Greer some years ago, but he began to overreach his data continuously, necessitating a withdrawal by myself, and, I believe, several others. ... Although I firmly believe it is time for openness and disclosure by government, I object to being misused in this fashion and acquire guilt by association with certain claims that simply are not true. ... I, nor any crew I was on (I was on three Apollo crews), received any briefing before or after flights on UFO events, saw anything in space suggesting UFOs or structures on the moon, etc. We did it just like we said in official reports. My only claim to knowledge of these events is from the individuals, mostly of yesteryear, who were in government, intelligence, or military; were there, saw what they saw, and now believe it should be made public. But I claim no first hand knowledge, nor have any."

Who has been listening to the Disclosure Project witnesses knows that some of them have been talking about structures on the moon and such, something which Mitchell denies having seen. Greer, on the other hand, in recent years even began to repeat the very questionable rumors that the first astronauts on the moon had seen UFOs.

Over the years I've found the following things to be a concern with Steven Greer:

1) Greer is close to members of the Anglo-American Establishment. He's been to the ranch of Laurance Rockefeller where he was brought into contact with the Clintons, he's always talking about globalization, the effects of global warming (which I think is bs), and his adventures at the United Nations. Greer also vaguely claimed to know about the interest of the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, Peter G. Peterson, Maxwell Rabb, and Prince Philip in the UFO subject and the Disclosure Project. Each and every person or family mentioned here is part of the Anglo-American Establishment (they have all been Pilgrims btw). It is actually quite likely that Greer has been in contact with Maurice Strong, a close associate of Laurance Rockefeller, the Rothschilds, Al Gore, and such, in the sustainable development and global warming movements. Increasingly I wonder: how much do Greer's spiritual and New Age ideas overlap with those of Maurice Strong?

Equally interesting is Greer's talk about the worldwide policy group that oversees the UFO secrecy. According to Greer, about two-thirds of this group approves of disclosure, although there's a small, but very influential and violent minority that wants to keep things secret. As usual, Greer hasn't spelled out the story, but it's interesting to note that Greer has been attacking a number of traditional opponents of the Anglo-American establishment: key neoconservatives as Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, the Mormons, and reactionary elements in the Vatican (-Paneuropa network).

2) His spiritual/remote viewing stories don't make that much sense here and there. Remote viewers slamming into alien spacecraft is just one example.

3) Greer continually teases his public with little nuggets of seemingly new information. However, he never lays out the full story, nor does he mention how this information came to him ("witness A said this, witness B said this, we checked this and found out that, etc.").

4) Greer has been talking about finding a free energy device for at least a decade now. Occasionally he claimed to be on the verge of a breakthrough, but ultimately things never seem to go anywhere. He has also never explained how his team would be able to protect the scientists in question, as, according to his own words, the rogue group involved in UFO back-engineering is in the possession of incredibly advanced monitoring equipment.

5) How would Greer be able to protect his (new) witnesses when his adversaries are in the possession of consciousness-linked real-time monitoring systems that supposedly can spy on anyone, at any time, anywhere?

6) Greer's Disclosure Project with its hundreds of witnesses would be incredibly vulnerable to disinformation, especially when information is not being carefully checked (or put aside until it can be verified). New witnesses can have all the credentials in the world, but who says they are telling the truth? It is perfectly possible that the Disclosure Project has been targeted by a long-term disinformation campaign involving at least several dozen witnesses, all of them backing up aspects of each other's stories. Greer's explanation that he is remote viewing many of his future witnesses is not particularly satisfying.

7) Some of Greer's information sounds quite spectacular. However, the more reliable aspects of it have already been discussed in the past and Greer seldom gives credit.

One example is the December 1991 document entitled 'memorandum of the Task Force of Greater CIA openness to the Director of Central Intelligence' which included a passage about the CIA's continued cooperation with the media. It's on the Disclosure Project website and Greer frequently mentions it in his lectures as something members of his team have brought to light. He forgets to mention, however, that it was the Washington Post who quoted from this document in 1992 (April 23, 1992, Washington Post, 'CIA Report On Openness Classified Secret').

Another example from 2006: Greer publicly stated that a top-level SETI scientist had confirmed to the Disclosure Project that SETI had received multiple extraterrestrial signals, but that these signals were soon jammed by U.S. intelligence agencies. True or not, few people know that already in 1990 Pulitzer prize winning author Howard Blum - who has written for the New York Times and was acquainted with Seymour Hersh - had reported something similar in his book Out There. Blum received this information from Jonathan Thompson, the executive secretary to President Bush's Science Advisor. The scientist in question, however, denied ever having said that to Thompson and immediately tried to put an end to the conversation.

A considerable amount of material is described in Blum's book that is today associated with the Disclosure Project. Blum already described the quick reaction teams of Projects Moon Dust and Blue Fly that were to "recover or perform field exploration of unidentified flying objects..." (quote from official documents). Blum also described Joint Chief documents in which they were worried that the increase in UFO sightings above national security sites were preparations for an alien invasion. Out of these fears not only grew Projects Moon Dust and Blue Fly, but also Project Saint and Project Blue Gemini, which were about tracking and killing UFOs.

Greer adds a lot to this older information. The only question is how reliable it is.

8) Greer has used very unreliable witnesses. Probably the best example is Dr. Fred Bell, who appears under the alias "Dr. B." in the Disclosure Project briefing document. It makes me wonder, is it Dr. Bell or Dr. Greer who decided to keep the name "Fred Bell" out of the Disclosure Project briefing document? In the document "Dr. B." is described as "a scientist and engineer who has worked on top-secret projects almost all his life." What is left out is that Dr. Bell has been somewhat prominent in California's New Age circuit since the 1980s (selling his extremely overpriced garbage), and that Dr. Bell claims to be a Pleiadean contactee, that we are all going to die in 2012, that no-757 hit the Pentagon, and that Grey aliens eat humans dissolved in acid. At the very least Greer would normally consider this last point to be pure disinformation, but somehow did think Dr. Bell - who certainly knows his physics, engineering, chemistry, and biology - was credible enough to be a Disclosure Project witness. Very strange.

On June 22, 2008, Paracast hosts Gene Steinberg and David Biedny did the unthinkable: they asked Greer some real questions. This interview clearly showed some more peculiar aspects of Greer's personality, among them:

1) Greer can be incredibly condescending, especially when questioned.

2) Greer just talks, and talks, and talks, and is very hard to shut up for even one moment so a follow-up question can be asked. At one point he even says to the hosts "don't interrupt me" and rambles on. In my opinion, at that point Greer wasn't particularly rationally refuting the claim that some abduction cases have been quite malevolent.

3) Greer doesn't do a good job of explaining why participants of CSETI contact events have to sign non-disclosure agreements when it comes to photographs and video material. First Greer is worried that certain members of the contact group may not want these materials out; then he states he's worried individual group members are going to copyright and sell the material. An argument follows about these copyright laws in which one of the hosts - who has some experience in this field - explains to Greer that it's perfectly possible to allow persons to share their videos but not allow them to sell them for profit. Regardless of who's right (and I suspect it's the host), it is quite strange that at the present moment (virtually) no videos about the CSETI contact events are available for download anywhere while CSETI events are supposed to be incredibly spectacular, judging from the words of Steven Greer.

4) At one point during the interview, one of the hosts says he has a close, personal friend who is extremely wealthy and has become interested in Greer's Orion Project, which is trying to raise 3 million dollars to build and market a free energy device. The host explains that his friend would hardly blink even at spending 30 million dollars, but that it is always important to know who exactly is involved in a project. The host, more or less acting as a proxy for his friend, rightly tells Greer that the information on the Orion website is too vague to make it of real interest to any potential big funders, and asks for some additional information on the persons who would be putting together such a device. Interestingly, Greer doesn't embrace this potentially huge opportunity to get all his funding problems out of the way. Instead of taking the host's word for it and scheduling a meeting with this wealthy businessman, he insults the host by questioning no less than four times if he actually has this wealthy friend. Greer's additional explanations on who's involved in the Orion Project, as always, leave much to be desired. This just shows that Greer either is a total retard when it comes to spotting business opportunities, or he has never been interested in actually putting together a free energy device.

You'd almost forget I like a considerable amount of what Dr. Greer has to say during his lectures, including his discussions on all the disinformation that has been spread in the UFO field. Unfortunately, he could make himself much more useful than he is now in getting to the bottom of the UFO issue. All his peculiar antics put a really big dent in his credibility and that of his work.

"Update, February 2009: Dr. Greer just did it again. In late December 2008 and early January 2009 it was possible to read the following message on the Disclosure Project website:

The Disclosure Project only uploaded two pages of this "document", which beared the name Strategic Studies Institute. Although this partial document was announced as being a really big and totally new revelation, it actually is anything but that. Here's why:

1) The "document" had already been available to the public for many years at Mindcontrolforums.com, although the paper never spread beyond this page.
2) The "Document" is not at all an official document written by the Strategic Studies Institute, as the Disclosure Project stated. It actually was a fictional scenario written by Julianne McKinney, a former army intelligence officer and an activist against the abuse of microwave and other electronic weaponry. McKinney's not-too-rational scenario was preceded by another slightly irrational letter. In part it read:

"Dear Dr. Metz and LTC Kievit [of the Strategic Studies Institute]: I read your _Revolution in Military Affairs and Conflict Short of War_ with great interest. ... Your paper contains all of the right elements for a successful (psychotechnologies, profit motives, manipulation of public opinion, deniability, crime as the public's inducement to sacrifice privacy, spiritual insurgency, etc. etc.); ... My proposal is a "homemaker's recipe" for a successful RMA if you will--embodying not only the ingredients which you have furnished in _The Revolution in Military Affairs and Conflict Short of War_, but, also, a few additional which you had not thought to discuss. My "recipe" is as follows:

A Successful RMA

"Ingredients:

"Satanic Cults UFO
Cults Directed-Energy Technologies
Neurocybernetics/Psychotechnologies
Biotechnologies/Experimental Drugs
Multinational Government Contractors
Investment Portfolios and Other Financial Inducements ... "

And this is where the Disclosure Project's carefully-picked pages pick up:

"Imported East Bloc Mercenaries and Military Equipment
Imported Foreign National Scientists
A Controlled and Compliant Media
Decentralized U.S. Government Control
An Induced Crime Wave

Instructions: 1. Raise one or two generations of children under the auspices of government-approved satanic cults, such as COL (USA ret.) Michael Aquino's Temple of Set..."

In other words, the credibility of both Dr. Greer and his Disclosure Project continues to sink to new depths. Reading Dr. Greer's book "Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge", you actually begin to wonder how much inspiration he has taken from this piece of fiction. When Greer stated he had official documents talking about "stagecraft", was he in reality referring to McKinney's fictional scenario?

"2. Create a global UFO cult, which will involve the abduction of citizens so as to foster an illusion that this earth is facing an extraterrestrial invasion. UFO abductees-of-preference will have an expertise in computer technologies, since that expertise will be required in future technocratic RMA scenarios. Use of experimental drugs, holographic projection capabilities, directed-energy technologies, induced auditory input, experimental aircraft, and special effects costuming and stagecraft, among other things, will be used to persuade abductees of the reality of their circumstances."

In the mean time, the Disclosure Project apparently realized the mistake and quietly took down the information from their website.