Kay Griggs Investigated: Did The Covert Operations and Sexual Abuse Clique of Husband Colonel George Griggs Really Exist? All the Names, Military and Civilian

Kay Griggs, former wife of former Marine Corps chief of staff Colonel George R. Griggs, has been quite popular in the conspiracy community after her 8-hour long interview with Pastor Rick Strawcutter, recorded in 1998. In the interview she accuses the Marine Corps clique of her husband of involvement in assassinations, false flag terrorism and of institutionalized homosexual activity that usually starts with pedophile child abuse of prospective teenage children. She pulls no punches and gives the names of dozens of individuals she met with her husband or whom her husband spoke about at various times.

Problematic personal experiences with Kay Griggs

The author of this article contacted Kay Griggs in 2011. Unfortunately, during private email conversations, Kay - who initially explained to be impressed with ISGP - came across as an ultra-manipulative intelligence asset. Despite providing lengthy "replies", pretty much from the start she refused to provide a drop of additional information, walked around key questions, ranted semi-coherently, and became increasingly and venomously anti-Semitic ("Jewboys", etc.).

Thus, it didn't take long before I was forced to give up asking for additional clarification or detail as a follow-up to the much more lucid and detailed 1998 interview. This is unfortunate, because I had organized dozens of questions that I would have loved to ask her. Interestingly, all her post-1998 interviews suffer from a similar extreme lack of information density, which undoubtedly is the reason why she is acceptable to Holocaust-denying disinformation agents as no-planer Eric Hufschmid and alternative radio host Jeff Rense. It's a shame, because it appears she most definitely knows what she is talking about. She may have genuinely been distressed in 1998, but since that time clearly someone has convinced her to not make any additional revelations and to even be just a good old disinformation asset.

In this article we will be looking at statements from Kay's 1998 interview in an effort to try and figure out to what extent her story is accurate. All of this basically is homework I had done before contacting Kay.

Confirming Kay's basic story on her husband, the Saudis, and the pedophiles at Princeton's Hun School

A first conclusion we can draw, based on all the photos she has provided and the extensive background story, is that Kay most certainly was married to Colonel George Griggs. She has also shown photographic evidence of meeting some of the Marine Corps associates of her husband. It's very clear in the lengthy 1998 video interview that she was often speaking from personal experience - despite considerable biases and despite it not always being clear what constitutes her opinion and what she has personally observed.

What is also a fact is that her husband went to Princeton's Hun School with Prince Turki al Faisal and six of his older brothers. [1] Other details Kay provided turn out to be correct as well: the Saudis who were at the Hun School with her husband (two older brothers of Prince Turki) stayed at Russell House with a person named Charles Caddock indeed being their mentor - just as Kay claimed. [2]

According to Kay, also an Alexander Robinson was active at the Hun School. Robinson had a Marine Corps background and was responsible for bringing in the Saudis. And similar to Caddock, he organized pedophile homosexual games with the children, including with Griggs and the Saudis. As it turns out, an Alexander Robinson most certainly existed at the Hun School. In the 1950s he was assistant to the assistant headmaster of the school and, as Kay claimed, indeed did have a Marine Corps background. [3] Until a few years ago this was pretty obscure information. It still is actually.

If Kay's husband and the Saudis indeed were sexually abused by Caddock and Robinson is impossible to confirm, of course, at least by this author, but with all the names and details checking out, maybe we shouldn't dismiss it out of hand here.

I almost forgot: Prince Turki's youth in the United States has been mentioned in Joseph Trento's 2009 book Prelude to Terror. The book describes how CIA director George H. W. Bush, former CIA director Richard Helms and Ted Shackley in the late 1970s set up the private Safari Club working relationship with Sheikh Kamal Adham, Saudi Arabia's intelligence chief, to be able to continue to field certain CIA covert operations without having to go through congress. This had become necessary due to the numerous congressional investigations looking into illegal CIA activities.

According to Trento's sources, Prince Turki, a nephew of Kamal Adham and considered his most likely successor, "had been the subject of CIA interest ever since his father had sent him to prep school at The Lawrenceville School" at Princeton. It is generally forgotten that Prince Turki enrolled in the Hun School, but finished high school at the nearby Lawrenceville School. Thus, assuming Trento's sources are correct, it can be concluded the CIA was already paying close attention to Prince Turki and undoubtedly his brothers the second they landed in the United States. This definitely increases the chances that Kay Griggs' claims about sexual abuse at the Hun School are true. For those interested in Trento's exact words, they can be found on page 100 of his book:

Shackley and Bush, of course, have been discussed at length by ISGP, primarily in connection to drug trafficking and even involvement in pedophile entrapment networks. No, what has been claimed by Kay Griggs about the Hun School, certainly isn't out of the realm of possibilities.

Kay's son who married "this Rockefeller guy"

Another example of a claim that checks out is the marriage of Kay's son (from her first marriage to John Pollard, III) to a girl who had a father whose best friend "is this Rockefeller guy." According to Kay, John D. Rockefeller IV and David Rockefeller came to the wedding of her son. Looking around a bit, this is what we can find in the New York Times of October 4, 1990:

So, this is supposed to be the wedding to which the Rockefellers went. Is this likely to have happened? Well, an extract of John Robert Halsey Blum Who's Who reads: "Career Associate Milbank, Tweed, Hope & Hadley, New York City, 1956-63, David Rockefeller, New York City, 1963-69." So John Blum used to be a lawyer for David Rockefeller? That's an amazing coincidence if Kay was making up these claims.

That's not all either. According to a 1980 membership list acquired by ISGP, John Blum's father, Robert Edward Blum, was a member of the elite Pilgrims Society, along with David Rockefeller and other members of the Rockefeller family. We have no full post-1980 membership lists of the Pilgrims, but based on his biography there's a very good chance that John Blum himself has also become a member in more recent years - which once again shows how small the world becomes at these elite levels. According to Kay in a private conversation, the Blums were close to the Rothschilds, which could well be true as this family can also be found in the Pilgrims Society.

The Pilgrims Society actually is not the only social club that ties the Blum and Rockefeller families together. Both families have also been generational members of the Century Association. Robert Edward Blum and John Robert Halsey Blum both were members of the club, as were John D. Rockefeller Jr., John D. Rockefeller III, Nelson Rockefeller, David Rockefeller and David Rockefeller, Jr. To a very large extent the membership of this elite New York social club, to which one needs to be invited, overlaps with the Pilgrims Society. Apart from the Blums and Rockefellers, examples of this overlap include Dwight Eisenhower, Allen Dulles, Andrew Mellon, numerous Morgan family members, Brooke Astor, David Schiff, Henry Kissinger, Dean Rusk, John Train (his brother Russell Train also was a member) and many others. Walter Rothschild, who married Caroline Warburg, was a member of the Century Association, as was his son Walter Rothschild, Jr., which - again - fits with the claim of Kay Griggs that the Blum and Rothschild families were friendly.

Colonel Griggs' military clique and ties to the CIA, Saudis and superclass

Kay claimed that Marine Corps friends of her husband have included:

• Gereral Jim Joy, commander of the 22d Marine Amphibious Unit in Lebanon in 1983 and 1984 and commander of Joint Task Force in Lebanon from 1984 to 1985;
• General Louis H. Buehl III, chief of staff of the Marine Corps from 1987 until his sudden death from a stroke in 1988;
• General Alfred Gray, commandant of the Marine Corps from 1987 to 1991;
• General Carl Mundy, commandant of the Marine Corps from 1991 to 1995;
• General Charles Krulak, commandant of the Marine Corps from 1995 to 1999;
• General Jack Sheehan, commander-in-chief for U.S. Atlantic Command from 1994 to 1997 and;
• General Charlie Wilhelm, a deputy assistant secretary of defense from 1990 to 1992 and commander U.S. Southern Command, Miami, Florida, 1997-2000.

Another often-mentioned friend of Colonel George Griggs had an Army background:

• General Carl Stiner, the commander of Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) at Fort Bragg from 1984 to 1987 and the commander in chief of United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM).

It appears Stiner was more qualified than any of the Marine Corps buddies of Colonel George Griggs to be running "dirty tricks", which fits with Kay's occasional references to "Stiner's army". Near the end of the second Bush administration, plenty of information has come out about JSOC in particular carrying out the dirty work of assassinating suspected Middle East terrorists. JSOC is a division of United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM), which Stiner came to head later on in his career. Commanders of USSOCOM tend be involved with the Association of Former Intelligence Officers and the OSS Society, both loaded with retired CIA directors, NSA directors and leaders of the special operations community.

This brings us to a handful of questionable statements made by Kay, one being that the CIA is little more than a "distraction" to the masses. This simply is not true. In all the years I've been researching covert networks, the CIA is always at the top of the food chain, especially with the really illegal operations. Look, for instance, at this lengthy list of accusations of CIA drug trafficking. More specifically, look at the 1985 torture-murder of DEA agent Kiki Camarena. Strong evidence has emerged that it was Felix Rodriguez, part of the CIA clique that almost certainly killed JFK and at the time described as being "in charge of what is left of the paramilitary capability at CIA", who ordered the assassination and oversaw the torture. Aiding Rodriguez in the kidnapping of Camarena were not special forces. No, it were Mexico's cartel bosses, cabinet members, and special police units.

It should be very clear that the CIA is a solid grade above the clique of generals described by Kay Griggs. For those still in doubt look at the lines of promotion: in the United States the civilian authorities are solidly in control of the military. This includes the president, the secretary of state, the secretary of defense, the national security advisor and, at a slightly lower level, the CIA director. The commandant of the Marine Corps or the JSOC or USSOCOM commander. They always take their orders, and not even in a direct line, from the secretary of defense, the CIA director, or, possibly in very unusual circumstances, the president and national security advisor directly. However, I've no idea if a project of the latter kind can even be kept secret from the secretary of defense or CIA director. The CIA and Defense Department basically are the only two possibilities, with the CIA having A) the much more (civilian) establishment connections; and B) access to billions of unvouchered funds, i.e. a black budget.

What also comes to mind is Kay's repeated claims that Navy Seals are used to carry out assassinations, break ins, and psychological warfare type operations. Especially when Kay is referring to break ins in her own house and the death of CIA director William Colby, I have some problems with that. This requires a highly specific skillset not found in regular special forces. At the very least you'd be looking at recruits to an official or unofficial subdivision of the Army's Special Operations Command or the CIA's Special Operations Group. And when the CIA is involved one never knows what kind of private network they're recruiting from. Especially when it involves operations of the unconstitutional kind, it might be unwise to use potentional whistleblowers and simply stick to proven criminals - like the mafia and highly-skilled burglers.

It's interesting to note that General Carl Stiner, formerly of JSOC and USSOCOM, after his retirement became chairman of the Special Operations Warrior Foundation, with superclass elites as Frank Carlucci, Senator John McCain, Sam Nunn and General Edward C. Meyer on the board of advisors. [5] Clearly Stiner was very connected and it's unlikely that he only developed these connections after his retirement. Carlucci, for example, was deputy director of the CIA 1978-1981, deputy secretary of defense 1981-1982, national security advisor 1986-1987 and secretary of defense 1987-1989. Undoubtedly he would have had some association with Stiner. In addition, Carlucci was part of the exact same private CIA clique as the earlier-mentioned Felix Rodriguez, which also included Donald Gregg, Ted Shackley, George H. W. Bush, Richard Helms and a number of others. Of these, Carlucci, Shackley, Bush and Helms maintained close friendships with top Saudis since the late 1970s, in particular with Prince Turki al Faisal and Bandar Bush, first in the Safari Club network and later through the Carlyle Group, ran by Carlucci, with Bush and James Baker on his side. These aspects are primarily discussed in ISGP's The Supranational Suspects Behind 9/11 article.

Considering Colonel George Griggs went to the same little Princeton Hun School as Prince Turki and was close to Stiner, we (once again) appear to be dealing with a rather closely-knit network. In fact, Kay has listed CIA director Allen Dulles, CIA director William Colby, CIA deputy director Frank Carlucci, Reagan's secretary of state George Shultz and Bush's secretary of state James Baker among the civilian Princeton sex party associates of her husband. [6] How this exactly worked, I have no idea and it is unfortunate that this is a claim of hers that was only made in 2005, but at the very least we can say that all of these individuals did graduate from Princeton, one of three absolutely key Eastern Establishment universities on the East Coast, together with Yale and Harvard. Graduating from one of these universities is absolutely crucial to make it to the highest positions of power in the United States, so much of the elite "fraternizing" would have to be going on through these three universities. And the CIA's national security network always seems to be key in this.

For that matter, Baker and Shultz should be considered almost as close to CIA as Dulles, Colby and Carlucci. Shultz used to be president of Bechtel before he joined the Reagan administration as secretary of state, taking with him Bechtel vice president Caspar Weinberger, who became Reagan's secretary of defense. Along with the Rockefellers, Bechtel has been operating as a willing CIA front almost since the inception of the Agency, a fact discussed in some detail in ISGP's article on the Pilgrims Society, a group of which Shultz and Weinberger became members after retiring from government. For decades Bechtel helped maintain Saudi Arabia pipeline system and worked close with the Bin Laden family and other top Saudis.

James Baker was similarly close to the Saudis, serving in the 1990s and early 2000s as a key advisor to the Carlyle Group, infamously meeting with a half-brother of Osama bin Laden on the morning of 9/11, together with Carlucci and Bush, Sr. And maybe not unimportant, a son of William Colby, Jonathan, was also working for Carlyle at the time as well, having previously worked for the Blackstone Group (another son of William Colby, Carl, has recently been invited to the board of the OSS Society). [7] Baker's ties to Bush go back to the 1950s, around the time Bush allowed the CIA to use his oil company as a front and when he got in bed with the CIA's most notorious historical officer ever: Ted Shackley. Thus it can be argued that Baker too most likely has been a CIA insider for many decades.

According to Kay Griggs, her husband actually was officially working for the CIA in the 1990s, despite him apparently not taking any orders from the Agency itself - at least not directly. In addition, she has stated that he was very close to the CIA's Edwin Wilson and also was friendly with CIA director William Casey, former CIA director George H. W. Bush, and famous liberal CIA officer Cord Meyer. Add to this Colonel Griggs' alleged Princeton clique involving former deputy CIA director Frank Carlucci and former CIA directors Allen Dulles and William Colby, and Kay's notion that the CIA is "just a distraction" comes to stand on shaky ground. Ultimately her husband was doing the bidding of the U.S. government, which delegates almost all covert political operations to the CIA. Whether her husband was part of the bureacratic CIA or the superclass CIA consisting of the social network of various top level CIA officers hardly seems to matter.

For additional insight, it might be helpful to look at some of the elite connections that Colonel George Griggs' friends have fostered:

• In 1999 General Carl Mundy, the commandant of the Marine Corps from 1991 to 1995, was founding chairman of the military affairs committee of the Center for Security Policy, which counted the prominent involvement of future Bush government officials Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and Dov Zakheim. He served on the board of defense contractor General Dynamics, soon after the retirement of the earlier-discussed Frank Carlucci.


• As for General Jack Sheehan, in 1998, one year after his retirement from the military, he became general manager of the Petroleum and Chemical Business Unit of Bechtel [8], a company which we just mentioned as a long-time CIA front and also put in relation to George Shultz, who, like Carlucci, apparently was an associate of Kay's husband.
  
  Also beginning in 1998, Sheehan served with former deputy CIA director Frank Carlucci and former CIA director James Schlesinger (Center for Security Policy) on the board of the U.S.-Cuba Trade Association, along with liberal establishment counterparts David Rockefeller, Paul Volcker, John Whitehead, Carla Hills (AIG) and movie director Oliver Stone. [9] In the 1997-1998 period Sheehan was also a member of the Catastrophic Terrorism Study Group, along with superclass members John Deutch, a CIA director under Clinton; Joseph Nye, Fred Ikle and future 9/11 Commission executive director Philip Zelikow.
  
  At the time of 9/11, Sheehan served on the Defense Policy Board, along with Richard Perle, Henry Kissinger, James Woolsey, James Schlesinger and Fred Ikle. [10] Defense Policy Board members held regular meetings with undersecretary of defense for policy, Douglas Feith, but details are always kept from the public.

From these ties it is rather obvious that the senior leadership of the Marine Corps has remarkably close ties to both the (neo)conservative and the liberal establishments, and specifically those individuals ranked high in ISGP's Superclass Index. It's the same story with General James L. Jones, commandant of the Marine Corps from 1999 to 2003, who is actually listed in the Superclass Index. Like General Carl Mundy, General Jones too was a regular at the Center for Security Policy in the years prior to 9/11. Jones also became part of the absolute core of the liberal establishment. In 2007, for example, he joined the Scowcroft Institute of International Affairs, which falls under the Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M University. Other trustees have included two-time national security advisor and Kissinger Associates vice chairman Brent Scowcroft (reportedly a close friend of George Griggs), Kissinger Associates president and Bush 41 secretary of state Lawrence Eagleburger (reportedly a friend of George Griggs), Henry Kissinger himself, former CIA director and future defense secretary Robert Gates, Trilateral Commission founder and national security advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski (reportedly part of George Griggs' clique), Bobby Ray Inman, a former ONI and NSA director and deputy director of the CIA; and former CIA director John Deutch. [11] Also among the trustees was Marine Corps General Bernard Trainor, who might have been among the superiors of George Griggs when the former ran the operations department of the Marine Corps from 1981 to 1985.

Gen. Al Gray's alleged sexual entrapment network

Kay claimed that the earlier-mentioned generals - Gray, Mundy, Krulak, Sheehan, Stiner, etc. - along with her husband, were involved in a "sexual perversion" network. She appears to be mainly pointing to homosexual sex that begins as pedophile abuse at a young age. As an additional detail she mentioned that within this network, Al Gray, commandant of the Marine Corps from 1987 to 1991, and his wife were running a network of hookers that tried to entrap politicians.

So, can this be confirmed? Not really, but it is interesting that back in the 1980s Gray appeared at parties of pedophile pimp Craig Spence, along with Roy Cohn and CIA director William Casey, both also accused of involvement in these type of networks. [12] If Gray has been involved in these type of activities I doubt he did it at his own pleasure and would be keeping the information to himself and his Marine Corps bodies. I very much suspect the information would go up the chain to the CIA.

And in this respect it is important to note that, according to Kay, William Casey just happens to have also been part of "George clique". The same goes for the CIA's Edwin Wilson, a controversial subordinate to Ted Shackley and CIA director William Casey, who is reported to have taken over this pedophile entrapment network from Roy Cohn. [13] According to Kay in her 1998 interview - and in a different context - she stated that Wilson not only was a "really bad guy", but also "one of George's best friends."

While nothing can be proved, the claims of Kay Griggs certainly can't be disproved. They actually make quite a bit of sense in light of all the other information unearthed and organized by ISGP regarding pedophile entrapment networks allegedly operating at the highest levels of society.

Summary

Personally I have to say that during her 1998 interview Kay Griggs makes a ton of intriguing statements that might well be true. If I had to guess, I'd say most of her claims are true, at least those aspects in which she is speaking from personal experience. She's just talking too freely for too long, gives too many names, provides too much documentation, and comes from a family with too many connections for us to just assume that she has been making everything up, especially because too many basic facts she provided appear to check out and I've not been able to find any blatantly false statements. Yes, I don't believe that the CIA is "just a distraction" or that the Navy Seals - as a bureaucratic institution - carry out unconstitutional break-ins and assassinations against whistleblowers, but these are relatively minor technicalities, especially considering Kay's background as the wife of a ranking Marine Corps officer.

Unfortunately, the 1998 interview seems to be the first and last time Kay clearly spoke out. In 2011 I had compiled over 50 follow-up questions to this initial interview, but as already explained in the introduction, she not only refused to answer any of them, but was actually playing psychological games in her emails by just endlessly ranting around questions and by becoming an increasingly obnoxious anti-Semite. It was very clear that she wasn't just holding back information for fear of talking to the wrong person, but actively playing mind games with absolutely no desire to share any additional details. I was actually shocked that I couldn't get her to even mention the name "Theodore Shackley" in her replies, even when I specifically asked for the tiniest of conformations about this individual (due to some newly discovered documents revealing that Shackley largely ran the Cercle group). I would just get five-page rants about unrelated stuff. This type of behavior is so common among disinformative online conspiracy theorists that I simply have to conclude she's an intelligence asset of the John Birch Society and especially the Liberty Lobby kind.

How this transformation has taken place, I do not know. She might have provided the initial interview exactly for the reasons she stated: she was complaining to the neighborhood about her marriage, was harassed by her husband's friends, and decided to fight back. It appears that after her 1998 interview hit the emerging internet waves, deals were made that she would be left alone and that everything would go back to normal, as long as she stops leaking information. Unfortunately, the package also seems to have included that she discredits herself by ranting incoherently and by allying herself with raging Holocaust deniers as Eric Hufschmid and Rense.

It must be said though that already in her 1998 interview she was making references to the work of Eustace Mullins. While praiseworthy material in many ways, Mullins was a protege of a pro-Nazi poet, himself a raging Jew-baiter, and had his work financed by John Birch Society H.L. Hunt, who son played a key role in setting up the Council for National Policy - elements all discussed in ISGP's article on Alex Jones. Also, when Kay brought up Admiral Harry Train II, she described him as this "big New World Order guy", instantly making it clear she has been reading up on John Birch Society material.

Then there was Kay's "savior", the old White House press reporter Sarah McClendon, with whom Kay lived for some time in the 1990s to escape from her husband's clique. McClendon is an old McCarthyite extremist with deep intelligence connections who managed to sneak on to the founding board of the Coalition on Political Assassinations (COPA), which tried to unearth the "truth" behind the JFK assassination. She also pushed the hyper-manipulative Disclosure Project of Steven Greer, sitting on front row, dead center, at the project's 2001 Washington National Press Club.

It's clear that Kay followed into the footsteps of McClendon and all the other John Birch Society and Liberty Lobby controlled opposition assets. How this change occurred, I simply don't know. For all we know she's been kidnapped to a remote cabin, drugged for weeks, and MKULTRA-style hypnotized. Or maybe a demon escaped from hell and possessed her. These conspiracy disinformation networks are the most bizarre on the planet. They're a serious danger to the psychological health of anyone who tries to make sense of them. So don't. Keep your eyes on the information that can be confirmed and don't judge the rest of the material until you're in a position to do so. This has been the exact approach taken with this article and we most definitely learned a number of new and important facts from it.

Names mentioned by Kay Griggs as associates of her husband Colonel George Griggs

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